By continuing you agree to our use of cookies. You are able to update your settings at any time.

Cookie Policy

A cookie, also known as an HTTP cookie, web cookie, or browser cookie, is a piece of data stored by a website within a browser, and then subsequently sent back to the same website by the browser. Cookies were designed to be a reliable mechanism for websites to remember things that a browser had done there in the past, which can include having clicked particular buttons, logging in, or having read pages on that site months or years ago.

Strictly Necessary Cookies

These cookies cannot be disabled

These cookies are necessary for the website to function and cannot be switched off. They are normally set in response to your interactions on the website e.g. logging in etc.

Cookies:
  • .ASPXANONYMOUS
  • .DOTNETNUKE
  • __RequestVerificationToken
  • authentication
  • CV_Portal
  • CV_Store_Portal_Cart_21
  • CV_USER
  • dnn_IsMobile
  • language
  • LastPageId
  • NADevGDPRCookieConsent_portal_21
  • userBrowsingCookie

Performance Cookies

These cookies allow us to monitor traffic to our website so we can improve the performance and content of our site. They help us to know which pages are the most and least popular and see how visitors move around the site. All information these cookies collect is aggregated and therefore anonymous. If you do not allow these cookies we will not know when you have visited or how you navigated around our website.

Cookies:
  • _ga
  • _gat
  • _gid

Functional Cookies

These cookies enable the website to provide enhanced functionality and content. They may be set by the website or by third party providers whose services we have added to our pages. If you do not allow these cookies then some or all of these services may not function properly.

Cookies:

Currently we are not utilizing these types of cookies on our site.

Targeting Cookies

These cookies may be set through our site by our advertising partners. They may be used by those companies to build a profile of your interests and show you relevant adverts on other sites. They do not store directly personal information, but are based on uniquely identifying your browser and internet device. If you do not allow these cookies, you will experience less targeted advertising.

Cookies:

Currently we are not utilizing these types of cookies on our site.

HomeHomeDiscussionsDiscussionsGeneralGeneralDown Jackets - An OpinionDown Jackets - An Opinion
Previous
 
Next
New Post
3/5/2019 9:53 AM
 

Although this could have been added to the Equipage Level 1.5, 2 or 3...I thought it might be useful as a stand alone piece.

Around 2010, I gifted my North Face Expedition 900 Down (may have been 850) to my nephew. Too warm and too bulky. I stuck with my Arcteryx Atom LT and more recently, an Arcteryx WX (a bit heavier, DWR shell and no thermal side vents). I surmised I was done with down as I moved to central Canada (Eastern Ontario) and it is not overly cold.

I began thinking a down sweater may be a good, lightweight and packable option for hiking and camping. I only use my Arcteryx WX for work as it is a tactical (Coyote not MC but, with TRF velcro patches) midlayer and I didn't want to show that hand when out and about. I found a deal on an OR Transcendent Sweater. The current one is 650 fill and 13.1 oz. Mine.  Has been a nice piece, warm and light. Pretty happy with it.

At Christmas, I was sent a sale notice from Kuiu. I used to have quite a few of their pieces and was intrigued by their Superdown Ultra jacket. I know they have been working for years with the hydro down. The sale was 50 or 60% off on the solid coloured, hooded variant. So, I snagged one for $260 I believe it was. I was a little skeptical at first, 850 fill and only 8 oz. It seemed too good to be true.

Although not for extreme winter conditions, I can attest that at -22F with a shell over top, this thing is extemely warm and it has been awesome. It packs into the hand pocket if need, and takes up no more room than a 1L bottle. I have been super impressed with it. I have not used it in wet conditions but, like all down (even if it is treated like Kuiu's is) I would be hesitant to wear it as an outer in anything more than light snow. It is a great piece to add to your midlayer or warm piece when sitting still or for low impact activities. I used it skiing at -20F and it was great.

I may not have grabbed it at full price but, I am so happy with it, I thought I would let all of you know. If you are in need of a super lightweight, packable and extermely warm down jacket, keep your eye on their sales.

 
New Post
3/5/2019 3:06 PM
 
I've been slowly and carefully experimenting with down. I don't place my faith in treated down, but I do place a lot of faith in the advancements made in shell fabrics and DWR treatment over the last decade. Right now the way I think about it is that I don't want down in a coat because it has a high likelihood of being exposed to precipitation or perspiration. But down in a sleeping bag where I have more control of the environment it's in might be another matter. I'll be interested to hear what you think after another couple of years with that jacket.

We are fortunate in this matter that your conduct will be your marker and, thus, your reputation. The conduct of others on this forum has been, and will continue to be, their marker, and thus, their reputation. In the west, a person invests in one's reputation carefully. - 112Papa
 
New Post
3/6/2019 5:15 AM
 
Evan - I fully agree with your concerns. I have not taken the plunge on a down bag either.

Like you, I would be loathe to consider the down jacket in anything but the driest conditions.

I won't have a chance to try it out in a hard way as I am off on a training stint to E.Europe and spring will be pretty set around here when I get back.
 
New Post
3/6/2019 9:57 AM
 
I've been using a Black Diamond Cold Forge jacket this season. The Cold Forge uses a Primaloft Gold/Down blend for insulation so I tried it as a sort of way to dip my toe into down after sticking mostly to synthetic insulation for years. Baby steps.

It is supposed to be a best-of-both situation though I am not really sure it really works out like that. It is heavier and less compressible than straight down but it does stay warm even when wetted out a bit from the inside. It probably doesn't have a great warmth to weight ratio but the Primaloft Gold and Pertex with DWR gives me some peace of mind for nasty weather or high activity.

Black Diamond lists the insulation value when dry and when wet on the interior of the jacket though I have no way of testing their numbers.
 
Previous
 
Next
HomeHomeDiscussionsDiscussionsGeneralGeneralDown Jackets - An OpinionDown Jackets - An Opinion