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11/25/2015 12:59 PM
 

Well, in the interest of not completely trashing their products, I will not launch off into a complete angry tirade.  However, this last trip to the desert in Peru has proved to me beyond a shadow of doubt that Klymit products have fallen way down in the quality control and reliability department.

In the past year, I have had three different Klymit pads (2 Inertia XLs and 1 Insulated Static-V) fail miserably.  There are no discernable holes in any of them.  I used a ground cloth every time.  I suspect that the valve system on them is substandard and also likely the seam welds.  I am sending all three back to the company, expecting a full refund for each.  A colleague of mine also had an Inertia XL fail as well, during our recent trip to South Africa.  If they had been heavily used or abused, then maybe I could give them a pass....but each of these were barely used.  In fact, this last one in Peru had been downright "babied".  This was only its second outing.  As far as I'm concerned, that is completely unsatisfactory.  When you must be able to rely on your equipment in austere environs, things like a failed sleeping pad can become very important....especially in a survival situation.  

Unquestionably, part of these failures is due to them being produced out of Taiwanese sweat shops.  These are not cheap pads, price-wise.  They are farily expensive.  Not Neo-Air expensive, but more than several other models out there.  I used to like Klymit pads a lot...but recent experiences have caused me to think their QC has gone way downhill.

Just wanted to let folks on the forum know about these failures.  Thank God that HPG can still be counted among the American companies that produce top-shelf kit that is truly backcountry worthy.


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12/21/2015 7:53 AM
 
I purchased a Klymit pad and used it in my hammock at the Summer Gathering a couple of years ago. When I got home I inflated it to give it a wipe down and the valve never worked again. A shame, the packed form factor was awesome and it insulated well for what it was.

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12/21/2015 1:11 PM
 

I sent my Klymit pads (along with a nasty-gram) to them, explaining that they need to tighten up their shot group on quality control.  I've received both of my pads back...I haven't even pulled them out of their bags yet.  I don't know whether they repaired mine, or replaced them.  Either way....if either one fails anytime soon, I am done with that company.  If you cannot trust the gear you carry when you really need it....what's the point of carrying it?


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12/31/2015 5:41 PM
 
I hate to say it but I have tried numerous inflatable pads, and this is symptom of all of them. Trying to keep air in something is like trying to keep water out of something: not possible for the duration. I went to big, bulky, ugly foam pads…the object of much ridicule and derision from backpacking community…worse than that, I carry two. I had a Exped Downmat, probably lasted three trips, same symptoms you described. Big Agnes..three trips. I just gave up, and to tell you the truth the Z rest really doesn’t get in my way too much. I don’t think it’s the company so much as its situation germane to all inflatable pads. Nobody has really taken the manufacure of the inflatable pad that seriously. Not one comes to mind that is made with anything more than slave labor. Without knowing anything about the industry I am positive that there is a more advanced method of domestic manufacture that would, at a minimum significantly extend the life of the inflatable pad but it just hasn’t been explored. Too much ChiCom trash built for ultra lighters that use semi disposable gear to squeeze out a few more ounces from their thru hiker set up that will be in the landfills they so despise the following year.
 
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