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3/8/2015 4:13 PM
 

For years I've used the old NYCO fabric military surplus pants in various camo patterns for general outdoor use in the summer...backpacking, canoeing, hiking, camping, etc. I appreciate the fact that they dry relatively quick, sit high on the waist (good when wearing a pack), and are cheap. The only minor complaint I have is that they aren't a looser fit. Well, I'm about ready to resupply, but am wondering if there are other similar affordable pant options out there sans the camo pattern? Or maybe someone can convince me why I should forgo cheap and invest in a pair of the newer softshell pants. I'm open to suggestions, and any direction is appreciated.

Thanks.

Kevin

 
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3/8/2015 6:37 PM
 
If you keep an eye out you can get a pair of lightweight softshells for pretty cheap. I prefer them to most everything else I have tried because the little bit of stretch makes movement better and they are more comfortable less binding over all.

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3/8/2015 7:36 PM
 
Thanks, Scot. One of the things I'm most concerned about is being loose/roomy in the hips and thighs. Any brand/s to specifically recommend?
 
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3/8/2015 8:53 PM
 

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Cabela...As long as you're cool with camo patterns, the different pattern Microtex soft-shell pants that Cabela's offers are pretty dang good, and seem like they have plenty of room.  I bought a pair in the Outfitter Camo pattern, and find them very comfortable and durable.  You might even find a good sale on them right about now, since spring is right around the corner and they will probably have some things on sale.


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3/9/2015 8:10 AM
 

Also, another option I forgot to mention before are the Versatac and Versatac Light pants from Rail Riders.  They're very comfortable and roomy.  They also are extremely durable and have a lot of good functional features.


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3/9/2015 10:34 AM
 
The Rail Riders VersaTac line are my most worn pants. I was able to get the Mid's (in black) approved for duty wear at my agency. The Chief likes them so much he wears them daily as well. I wear the khaki Mid's for training and the Light's are my favorite all around outdoor and casual pant. I haven't tried the UltraLight's. I have found the BDU-type sizing to be consistent. The Mid's are actually a bit cooler in my opinion because of their looser weave while the Light's have more of a "wind pant" feel.

Cas at militarymorons.com is a great guy and does excellent reviews (with great photography). Here is his page reviewing the VersaTac line.

http://www.militarymorons.com/gear/rpants.1.html

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3/9/2015 5:52 PM
 
Ken and Nick,
Thanks for the great info. I'm interested in the Rail Riders Versa Tac pants. One question I have is do they have that "sweltering" feeling to them on a hot summer day when you are out in the sun?
Any other suggestions?
Thanks.
 
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3/9/2015 6:22 PM
 

Not in my opinion.  I've worn them in the desert heat of Tucson, Arizona and the humid jungle rainforest of Mazamari, Peru.  They have performed well for me in both of those hot venues.


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3/9/2015 7:53 PM
 
Thanks for the response, Ken.
While perusing the RailRiders website I ran across this offering: http://www.railriders.com/men-treme-adventure-pant-p-951.html?cPath=104_110
Any one have knowledge of these X-treme Adventure pants by RailRider? Looks to me like they might be fuller cut.
 
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6/20/2016 6:43 AM
 

Found these SORD Field Pants on sale at OP Tactical.  These and their companion Field Shirt have gotten some pretty good reviews.  Similar to the Crye Field Shirt and Pants.  I ordered a pair in tan to try out during upcoming trips overseas, particularly in the bush of South Africa.  Since the tan ones are 100% ripstop cotton, they could be really good for hot weather and desert environments.  The price is pretty decent.  

http://www.optactical.com/sofiunpa.html


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6/20/2016 9:56 AM
 
I've worn various Ex Offcio nylon pants/shorts for over 15 years now and since I retired, I wear the "Amphi" pants everyday.

I bought about $800 worth of RailRider stuff some years ago and the Adventure & Weatherpants line were the only thing worth mention - they are the bomb, if the fitment works for you. I sold off every bit of the rest within a year.

Arborwear makes some nice nylon pants, but the fitment didn't work for me although I liked the material and quality of construction.

Just recently, I've bought some Duluth Trading Co "Dry on the Fly" cargo pants and shorts. The sizing isn't perfect, but they are the best I've tried so far when I want something heavier-duty than my EXO stuff.

Catch them on sale, and they're half the price of RR pants with many of the same features and much better quality in construction.
 
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6/20/2016 1:41 PM
 
41magfan wrote:

Just recently, I've bought some Duluth Trading Co "Dry on the Fly" cargo pants and shorts. The sizing isn't perfect, but they are the best I've tried so far when I want something heavier-duty than my EXO stuff.

Catch them on sale, and they're half the price of RR pants with many of the same features and much better quality in construction.

 

Just did a full trip in a pair of dry on the fly cargo pants. Exactly the right balance of light weight and robustness for general mountain travel 3 seasons out of the year. And yes, I'm extremely impressed with the quality of construction.


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6/22/2016 4:13 PM
 

I wore my new SORD Field Pants today to work....very comfortable and love the pockets.  I know some are not fans of cargo pockets, but I love them....guess I'm just so used to them from my military life.  Anyway, the SORD Field Pants are a lot like the Crye Field Pants (which I also have), but at a much lower cost.  Robustly constructed, reinforced seat & knees, and lots of freedom of movement.  I would not hesitate to wear them on a backpack trip, or in hard-use situations.  They breathe really well, also.  These will definitely be going with me for upcoming trips to Peru, Paraguay, and South Africa.

As a separate test for a day of navigation training I will be providing some students tomorrow, I plan to wear my Otte Gear Alpine Trousers, to see how well they will breathe and feel in humid, high-80's weather.  We'll see.  If they feel good, I will begin using them more during the summer months.


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6/22/2016 4:38 PM
 
alpendrms wrote: As a separate test for a day of navigation training I will be providing some students tomorrow, I plan to wear my Otte Gear Alpine Trousers, to see how well they will breathe and feel in humid, high-80's weather. 

 

That's a real deal test right there. I'll be impressed if you're OK with that schoeller fabric in those conditions. I know it's good, but that would be really good.

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6/22/2016 4:57 PM
 
Appreciate the continued input on this thread.
Since my initial posting I've settled into using Sitka Ascent pants for warm weather use...hiking, packing, canoeing, etc. I like them so well I just recently bought a pair of their Mountain pant (I think that's the name) for use outside of the warm months. Really like the way the Sitka clothing fits me.
 
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6/23/2016 6:21 PM
 

As promised, I wore my Otte Gear Alpine Trousers all day today.  Mid-80s and humid.  At the beginning of the day it was raining very hard, complete with lightning and thunder.  Once the rain stopped....the humidity came back with a vengeance.  It was more humid today than many others I can remember in the recent past....humidity in the 90 percentile or greater.  

I wore the Alpine Trousers as a test to see how I would feel in them in this warm weather.  Although my legs felt warm today, I truly don't fell like they were uncomfortable.  Are they as breathable as a pair of light tech pants?  No, but the Alpine Trousers didn't feel any hotter or less breathable than something like a pair of Crye Precision pants or even my Rail Riders Versatac Pants.  Would I consider them my top choice for hot & humid conditions?  Certainly not, however I would not discount them for warm weather if they were my only choice.  The good news about that is I feel fine about grabbing these for warmer weather...especially if the humidity is lower, like out in the desert southwest.  Although there are lighter and more breathable pants for hot weather, the Alpine Trouser can still be a viable option, particularly if full ROM and high abrasion resistance is needed.  

Bottom line....I would definitely wear these in Colorado summer backcountry conditions, and also South African Bushveld.  For other summer and warm weather outdoor activities, I will from henceforth consider them as an option.  I actually still have them on right now as I write this...and I finished today's outdoor activities several hours ago.  I think they will do fine in warm weather, especially when it is a warm-dry environment.  They are probably not appropriate for very hot weather, but when it is ultra-hot outside, there probably aren't hardly any long pants at all that would feel good.  The rest of the seasons are no-brainers for these pants....which is when they really shine.  Just wanted to add my personal findings as more grist for the mill, and as a solid product to consider for a good all-rounder mountain pant.  They do really put up with a lot of use, as well.  I bought my tan ones last year after SHOT Show.  I also have a pair of the Multicam ones, which I used an awful lot in Afghanistan.  Both pair have put up with all manner of rough conditions and weather, so far.  So, even though these pants are pretty pricey, the amount of hard use one can get out of the Alpine Trousers seems to justify the cost, IMHO.


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7/1/2016 3:06 PM
 
Im a fairly recent convert over to duluth. The duluth flex firehose and duluthflex dry on the fly pants are extremely comfortable. Ive started wearing the duluthflex firehose canvas jeans for work. They are more comfortable than dress slacks or jeans and i find myself lounging in them at home due to the comfort.

The dry on the fly flex pants for me are great for the outdoors. To me they seem very similar to the high end custom military pants that cost and ungodly amount.

I have a pair of duluthflex dry on the fly lined pants I got on sale that I will try out this winter.

The names of the materials get a little confusing as far as what you get so I broke it down.

Original Firehose: 100% 11.5 oz cotton canvas
Duluth Flex firehose: 8oz cotton canvas/ 3%spandex
Dry on the fly pants: 100% 5.6 oz nylon
Duluth Flex Dry on the fly: 4.7 oz nylon canvas weave. 97% nylon/ 3% spandex
Duluth Flex sweatstop firehose: 8.4 oz cotton canvas. 72% cotton/ 28% coolmax

Each of these materials is offered in pants and shorts in multiple configuarations (cargo pants, carpenter, 5 pocket etc)


I have become more aware of what my pants are made of and i try to mainly avoid cotton when outside for multiple days which is why I chose the duluthflex dry on the fly pants. Thus far im loving all the duluthflex line for overall comfort.

Also if you get on the duluthtrading email list they have some killer deals.
 
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7/2/2016 7:00 AM
 
I really like my TruSpec 24/7 pants. They are a 65/35 poly/cotton blend. I wear them for all my hiking and fishing jaunts. And I wore them for my Boundary Waters trip last year. They still bead a little water off and dry quickly if they do get wet. The waist is really comfortable and the cut is nice. They have reinforced knees and seat, and plenty of pockets without the bagginess of the cammi uniform pants I am used to. They just came out with a Classic version, that are the same minus all the cargo pockets, I might pickup a pair of those, as I don't use all the pockets that much. And durability has been extremely good so far. Plenty of non camo color choices as well.
 
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7/11/2016 4:00 PM
 
I wanted to offer a little heads up regarding Duluth Trading's Customer Service. I bought two pairs of Dry on the Fly Cargo shorts last month and after wearing them casually just a few times, a crotch seam started coming unraveled on both pairs in the same place.

I contacted CS and they're sending me immediate replacements along with a prepaid return shipping label for the defective pants.

That's as good as it will ever get, boys and girls. I'm a recent Duluth customer but they're getting all the business I can give them from here on out.
 
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7/12/2016 4:15 AM
 
Appreciate you sharing that information. Knowing how a company handles the inevitable mistake is as important as the initial quality itself.
 
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